Comments on: Enough with hacks http://nervousbreakdown.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/enough-with-hacks/ I just had one. What about you? Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:09:31 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: nervous http://nervousbreakdown.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/enough-with-hacks/#comment-29 nervous Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:58:17 +0000 http://nervousbreakdown.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/enough-with-hacks/#comment-29 hi brandon, you say that a better voice might be that of competitors (i assume you mean mozilla, opera, safari etc.), but their voice is already there, plus in being competitors they are directly interested in IE loosing share, which is something that might be counterproductive. i am suggesting the voice should be that of influential authors (you know, meyer, shea, clark, johansson etc.) so that like what has been done with standards, there will be an authoritative collective voice to advocate for suppressing THIS IE (which i think is the last obstacle towards a completely accessible net). imagine if all of a sudden, they start preaching from their blogs and sites to go the extra mile with NOT supporting ie, even if this means making some clients angry. soon all the other standardists will follow and before you know you will be saying to your clients that no one is supporting ie because <strong>ie is holding back the net!</strong>. plus, by doing so, ie's market share will certainly decrease like another firefox hit the market, and microsoft will have to face the situation and not just by making cosmetic adjustments. ok, this is extremely optimistic, i know, and i know for small fishes not supporting ie is a big deal. but i'm positive that with strong example, good things can happen. bye and thanks for stopping by ;) nervous hi brandon,
you say that a better voice might be that of competitors (i assume you mean mozilla, opera, safari etc.), but their voice is already there, plus in being competitors they are directly interested in IE loosing share, which is something that might be counterproductive.

i am suggesting the voice should be that of influential authors (you know, meyer, shea, clark, johansson etc.) so that like what has been done with standards, there will be an authoritative collective voice to advocate for suppressing THIS IE (which i think is the last obstacle towards a completely accessible net).

imagine if all of a sudden, they start preaching from their blogs and sites to go the extra mile with NOT supporting ie, even if this means making some clients angry.
soon all the other standardists will follow and before you know you will be saying to your clients that no one is supporting ie because ie is holding back the net!.

plus, by doing so, ie’s market share will certainly decrease like another firefox hit the market, and microsoft will have to face the situation and not just by making cosmetic adjustments.

ok, this is extremely optimistic, i know, and i know for small fishes not supporting ie is a big deal.
but i’m positive that with strong example, good things can happen.

bye and thanks for stopping by ;)
nervous

]]> By: brandon http://nervousbreakdown.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/enough-with-hacks/#comment-28 brandon Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:17:39 +0000 http://nervousbreakdown.wordpress.com/2006/11/17/enough-with-hacks/#comment-28 I think, even though I entirely agree with you on the grievances of all IE strains, that our clients and consumers would have a serious issue if we built their website to only be styled in FF, and hence we wouldn't work for them anymore. There needs to be a better voice, a push from the competators to force IE to change or put out of business. This could simply change by educating the public that do not know that their browser needs to be upated, or that there are other options. I may do this in my own personal website as it doesn't matter to me who sees or doesn't, I'm not trying to earn revenue from it.... I think, even though I entirely agree with you on the grievances of all IE strains, that our clients and consumers would have a serious issue if we built their website to only be styled in FF, and hence we wouldn’t work for them anymore. There needs to be a better voice, a push from the competators to force IE to change or put out of business. This could simply change by educating the public that do not know that their browser needs to be upated, or that there are other options.

I may do this in my own personal website as it doesn’t matter to me who sees or doesn’t, I’m not trying to earn revenue from it….

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